Two Stops, Two Kinds of Loss: A Marginal Short and a Clean Long
Two losses at exactly 1R each in a four-trade week. A Tuesday Nasdaq short approved on a three-point close stopped 27 points from target, and a Friday Dow long
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This is the losses report for a week that did not lose. Four trades across five sessions, two winners and two losers, and both losers cost exactly the 1R they were sized for. Together they gave back 2.0R, a simulated 4,000 dollars on a 100,000 dollar account at 2% risk, and two CPI-day shorts on Wednesday paid enough to close the window at +0.09R. The two losses look alike in the table and are not alike underneath. Tuesday's Nasdaq short was approved on the first evaluation, on a 5-minute close about three points under VWAP, with the approval itself naming a transitioning trend read and a stale live candle. Friday's Dow long sat through two declines until a 5-minute candle closed above 52,425, exactly as its plan asked, and it still stopped thirty minutes after the fill. Against the year to date ledger the scale is small. The system has banked +38.35R YTD from Jan 12 inception, sealed at the September close, which puts the same simulated account at $176,703.28. The desk gave back 2R in losing trades this week against +38.35R YTD, and the week finished slightly up once the winners are counted.
Tuesday: three points under VWAP
The week's first trade was the Nasdaq short. The plan asked for a 5-minute close below VWAP after price had tested it from below, and at 15:06 UTC the last completed candle had closed at 30,501.1 with VWAP near 30,504. That is a pass by about three points. The approval came at confidence 62 on the first evaluation, and it listed its own doubts: the Trend Agent read the regime as transitioning at 64% bearish, the 15-minute MACD histogram had not turned negative, and the forming 5-minute candle was showing stale data. The short filled at 30,504, ran to 30,428.9, 75 points our way and 27 short of the 30,402 first target, then turned and stopped at 30,583 at 16:30 UTC. The equity line sat at 98,000, its low for the week.
Wednesday: the offset
There were no losses on Wednesday, but the day explains why the window ended where it did. A hot September CPI print pushed yields higher and breadth down to about -1,600. The S&P book declined six times in fourteen minutes before a candle closed under its trigger, and its short reached the first target for +0.80R. The Dow book sold a failed retest of the post-CPI bounce forty minutes later and reached its first target for +1.30R. By 15:38 UTC the equity line had climbed to its peak of 102,189.83.
Friday: the trigger printed, the trade did not
The Dow long book wrote a pullback reclaim plan: hold the 52,335.8 New York low and VWAP, then close a 5-minute candle back above 52,425. Evaluations at 14:40 and 14:49 UTC declined because that close had not happened. At 14:52 the last closed candle had finished at 52,447.9, the 9 EMA had turned back up and the MACD histogram had improved, and the long filled at 52,428.1. It reached 52,467.7, about 40 points in profit, then reversed through the 52,322 stop at 15:22 UTC. The equity line closed the week at 100,189.83.
Every trade the system took.
| Date | Time | Instrument | Dir | Model | Setup | Grade | R | $ Sim | Result | Details |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oct 13 | 15:06 UTC | NAS100 | Short | NAS100 SHORT, VWAP Rejection / Failed Rally Continuation | C+ | -1.0R(SL) | -$2,000(SL) | Stop hit | - | |
| Oct 16 | 14:52 UTC | US30 | Long | GPT-5.5 | US30 Pullback Reclaim Long | B+ | -1.0R(SL) | -$2,000(SL) | Stop hit | - |
Dollar figures are simulated on a $100,000 account at 2% risk per trade. Actual subscriber P&L varies with account size. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.
Pattern of the week
The pattern this week is not in the losses themselves. It is in the difference between them.
Both stops were index trades, both were exactly 1R, and both went into profit before they turned. The Nasdaq short got within 27 points of its first target, and the Dow long got about 40 points into a trade whose first target sat roughly 103 points away. On outcome alone they are the same trade.
On process they are not. The Nasdaq approval met its trigger by the narrowest margin it could and wrote down three reasons for caution on the way in, then approved on its first look with no second evaluation on a clean candle. The Dow approval waited. Two evaluations said no because the close had not printed, and the third said yes only once it had.
Last week's losses report said that five of six losing approvals described a trade that was not quite ready. This week the count is one of two. With two losses that is a thin sample, but it is the direction we wanted the count to move.
Decision highlights
The Tuesday Nasdaq approval is the decision we would take back. It approved on the first evaluation at confidence 62, on a close about three points under VWAP, while naming a transitioning trend read at 64% bearish, a 15-minute MACD histogram that had not turned negative, and a live candle carrying stale data. One more evaluation on a clean candle would have cost five minutes and might have cost nothing at all.
The Friday Dow long is the decision we would repeat. Two evaluations declined it because the 5-minute close above 52,425 had not printed, and the approval came only once a candle closed at 52,447.9 with the 9 EMA turning back up. It stopped thirty minutes after the fill, which is a 1R cost of trading and not a lapse in the process.
The desk did not chase the Tuesday loss. The Nasdaq book took no second trade that week, and the next entries came from different books on a different day, each on its own plan after Wednesday's CPI print. Two losses three days apart with winners in between is what uncorrelated 1R risk is supposed to look like on the equity line.
Six instruments, six stories.
No trades this week. The euro book did not produce a plan that reached its entry conditions.
All EURUSD this week →No trades this week. The Cable book sat outside its setup criteria.
All GBPUSD this week →One loss, the Friday reclaim long at 52,428.1. It met its trigger in full after two declines, reached about 40 points of profit, and stopped at 52,322 thirty minutes after the fill.
All US30 this week →One loss, the Tuesday VWAP rejection short at 30,504, approved on a close about three points under VWAP. It ran 75 points our way and stopped 27 points short of its first target.
All NAS100 this week →No trades this week. The yen book did not produce a qualifying setup.
All USDJPY this week →No losses this week. The book's only trade was the Wednesday CPI-day short, which reached its first target.
All US500 this week →No trades this week. USDCAD remains the newest book and has not yet produced a qualifying setup.
All USDCAD this week →Loss of the week: US30 Long · -1R
Losses worth learning from
US30 Long, Friday, -1R, grade B+
The highest-grade loss of the week, and the cleaner of the two.
What was right
The process. The plan asked for price to hold the 52,335.8 New York low and VWAP and then close a 5-minute candle back above 52,425. Evaluations at 14:40 and 14:49 UTC declined because that close had not happened. At 14:52 the last closed candle finished at 52,447.9, the 9 EMA had turned back up and the MACD histogram had improved, so the trigger was met in full before the order went in.
What was wrong
Only the outcome. The long filled at 52,428.1, reached 52,467.7, about 40 points into a trade whose first target sat at 52,530.9, and reversed. The stop at 52,322 was hit at 15:22 UTC, thirty minutes after the fill, for exactly 1R.
What we'd do the same
All of it. A reclaim long that waits for its close and stops anyway is the cost of trading a probabilistic edge, and it is what the 2% risk per trade is sized for.
NAS100 Short, Tuesday, -1R, grade C+
What was right
The direction had support. The 10-year yield sat near 5.22%, high for long-duration growth stocks, and the plan was a VWAP rejection short in a bearish intraday structure. The trade went 75 points our way to 30,428.9.
What was wrong
The approval. The plan asked for a 5-minute close below VWAP, and the candle closed at 30,501.1 with VWAP near 30,504, a pass by about three points. The approval at confidence 62 named three reasons for caution: a transitioning trend read at 64% bearish, a 15-minute MACD histogram still positive, and stale data on the forming candle. It approved on the first evaluation anyway. Price turned 27 points short of the 30,402 first target and stopped at 30,583 eighty-four minutes after the fill.
What we'd do the same
The read and the sizing. A Nasdaq short under high yields is a fair trade on a trigger that clears with room and a live candle we can trust.
On a $100k account at 2.0% risk per trade.
Each trade risks +$2,000 (1R). The system's actual scale-out behavior may differ, see disclaimer.
| Scenario | R-multiple | Profit on $100k |
|---|---|---|
| Window drawdownActual | -2R | −$4,000 |
All six agents combined.
From the desk
The two losses cost 2.0R, or 4,000 dollars on the simulated 100,000 dollar account at 2% risk. Two winners on Wednesday brought the week back to +0.09R, roughly 180 dollars up. The week's own equity curve never fell more than 2% below its high water mark.
The year to date ledger reads +38.35R across 257 trades at a 57.59% win rate, from Jan 12 inception, sealed at the September close. On a static 100,000 dollar account at 2% risk that is $176,703.28. Compounding the same trades, where each position is sized off the balance it actually had, gives $203,855.48. The gap between the two, a little over 27,000 dollars, is not extra edge. It is the same R banked through fixed fractional sizing. This week's 4,000 dollars of losing trades is under 2.5% of the static figure, because no single position was ever allowed to be bigger than 1R.
One note on scope. October is still open, so this week is not yet in the year to date figure. The ledger has -3.27R recorded for the month so far across 19 trades, and it joins the year to date number when the month closes.
What we're tuning
For three weeks we have written about making the candle-close conditions in a session plan binding at the approval step. The Tuesday Nasdaq short adds a narrower version of the same question: what an approval should do when the trigger clears by only a few points and the approval itself has listed reasons for caution. A trigger met by three points on a candle the system has flagged as stale is a case for one more evaluation, not an approval on the first look.
We are also looking at how the approval step treats a data problem on the live candle. When the freshest data is known to be wrong, the safer default is to wait for the next clean close before the order goes in. Neither change ships on one trade, but both now have a loss attached to them.
What the numbers actually mean
Two losses in four trades is a 50% win rate for the week, well under the system's long-run figure. On its own that looks like a step backward. The arithmetic says it is a normal week for a system with this record.
Across 257 trades from Jan 12 inception the system has won 57.59% of the time and banked +38.35R. At that win rate roughly 42% of trades lose, so in any four-trade window two losses is close to the expected count, not an outlier. The chance that any two particular trades in a row both lose is a little under 18%, and this week did not even manage that. The two stops were three days apart with two winners between them, and the longest losing streak in the window was one.
Van Tharp built the R-multiple around the idea that a system is a distribution of outcomes measured in units of risk, not a win rate. The average winner in this window's panel is 1.05R, drawn from the week's two first-target winners. Against a 1R loser, a 1.05R average winner breaks even at a win rate a little under 49%. That is why a 50% week still finished positive, and why every loss holding at exactly 1R matters as much as the size of any winner.
Jack Schwager's Market Wizards interviews make the same point from the other side. The traders who last are not the ones who avoid losses. They are the ones whose losses stay uniform and bounded. Two losses at 1R each and a 2% peak to trough on the simulated account is about as bounded as a losing side gets.
One caveat on sample size. A single week is four trades, and the drawdown figure in the panel comes from this window's equity walk alone. The 257-trade record and the 57.59% win rate are the numbers with weight behind them. This week is one small slice of that record.
At a Glance
Drawdown questions
Both losses were 1R. Why treat them differently?
Because they came from different decisions. The Friday Dow long met its trigger in full after two declines and stopped anyway, which is a cost of trading. The Tuesday Nasdaq short met its trigger by about three points while the approval listed three reasons for caution, which is a question about the approval. They cost the same, but only one of them points at something we can change.
The Nasdaq short got within 27 points of its target. Was it unlucky?
Partly. Price went 75 points our way before it turned, so the read was not far off. But a trade that clears its trigger by three points, in a trend read only 64% bearish, on a live candle carrying stale data, is a trade with less margin for error than the plan intended. Being close to the target does not change how marginal the entry was.
Why does this report say minus 2R when the weekly recap says +0.09R?
They measure different things. This report covers only the losing trades, so it totals 2.0R across two losses. The recap covers all four trades in the window and nets those losses against two winners. Neither number is an adjusted version of the other.
Why is this week not in the year to date figure?
Because October is still open. The year to date ledger is sealed at the end of each completed month, so it reads +38.35R across 257 trades through the September close. October currently sits at -3.27R in the ledger across 19 trades, and it joins the year to date figure when the month closes. We publish it this way so a number printed in one month still means the same thing later in the year.
Is a 2% drawdown in a week a concern?
No. One loss at 2% risk is a 2% move on the simulated account by design, and that was the deepest point of the week. The equity line recovered to a new high on Wednesday and closed the window slightly above where it started.
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